Types of drinking holes in Singapore.
For those who are unfamiliar, with these terms maybe I should run it through a little.
1. Bar - Places where the only entertainment is the beer, the drinks and whoever you bring along. For example Harry's which is all around Singapore. And now we have a good spawn volume of Cocktail bars like Ah Sam Cold Drink Stall, Spiffy Dapper and many more. More commonly along Boat Quay, Clarke Quay or Club Street.
That's my friend Sam, now the famous bar tender and owner of the popular "Ah Sam Cold Drink Stall" |
All those good times at a KTV Pub with these guys. |
Not the best picture of me dancing but that's how I do it. |
Beside the fact that the scene and entertainment is different, the crowd of such places are very different too. It's pretty much about choosing your poison or meat to some in this case.
Thai Club
So where does "Thai Club" fall into?
In fact, what is a Thai Club and what do I mean by "Culture".
As the name suggest, "Thai" simply means that it's club that has singers, hostess and even bar tender from Thailand. Such places mostly involved massive number of entertainer, from singers to dancers. Truth is these entertainers are really really very talented.
The Culture
I was 1st introduced to Thai Club culture probably 6-7 years ago when it wasn't as big a thing as it is currently in 2014. Live Impact at Central Mall was a nice Thai Club which is pretty much something alike to one you can see today but smaller scale and not as crowded on certain days.
You usually get to drink with the hostess, dancers and if you are "lucky" even the singers off the stage or make friends with them and bring them out for dinner.
The question, are you really lucky?
Picking up girls in a common club includes pick up lines and maybe some alcohol or the Playbook but things at the Thai Club gets a little simpler.
By Simple I mean really simple but it ain't gonna be cheap.
The Garland
A Garland as much as $2,000 to a singer for 1 song. |
When I was 1st introduce to a Thai Club, I thought the whole idea of giving a Garland to a girl as tips was silly. Why do I want to pay $30 for a flower Garland just for the girl? Later I know it's because the girls get to trade it in for cash value. Depending on the venue, some takes a cut as much as 50% - even 70% of it.
So I ask, why not just pay the girl the sum into her pocket? Why not just give cash? I've no idea about the origin of it but I must say the psychology of it was simply magic.
Man's Ego
Why does man go to such places night after night and weeks after weeks? What is it that they want to get out of it? To enjoy the drinks? To dance? Listen to the songs? To bang the girl on stage? I wouldn't say I know any better but from the people around me I would say a little of everything.
I ask myself, why are these people so rich? Why are they willing to spend so much money just to give the girl money? Is it as simple as just "tips"?
1. These people ain't all that rich. I've friends who fall into this bottomless pit owing banks and credit card bills up to thousands and thousands of dollars.
From interview with some friends, they can visit the place almost 3 times a week and spent a good average of $600 - $700 on drinks. That is not including the "tips" they give nor Taxi fare when they go home. And in many cases, these guy friends of mine would bring the hostess out for supper there after and let's make a guess who foot the bills? So why am I not surprise these guys fall into the pit of credit card bills?
2. Why are they willing to spend so much? Like I say the magic garland. It doesn't only show the girl how sincere (or stupid) you are that you want to be thier friend and appreciates her singing, it also show the other (stupid) guy at the other table that "Hey, this girl is mine and I'm better than you so you F*uck off". Ego. This is the magical part of these garland. It makes man's ego boil and trying to top one another. The Ego where you bring a new group of friends into the bar and the girls greet you by name. You feel special, you feel like a VIP. The ego where other guy friends tell you that the girl dancing on stage is hot and you say "yup, that's my girl. I went out with her for dinner, movie and even make out before."
Can't Buy Me Love
As much as this culture is satisfying man's ego, little do many know that money can't buy you love. It's really money works. And these ladies are embracing on the fact that man loves such attention.
They will make the guys buy them dinner, bring them out for movie and even drive them around. "She is my girlfriend" says so many man and my question is always "Which days?"
Despite all these there are still many man who falls into the "KC (Kam Cheng - Love) Trap"
#TrueStory
"I've this hostess that managed to get guys to buy her the newest iPhone 4S when it was launched and at the end of 2 weeks she has almost 10 sets and she started selling it away. All she did was to tell them her phone is spoilt and can't message them but she miss them and want to text them. A simple phone is not enough because she cannot whatsapp them her sexy pictures. And there was this army boy who was too poor to buy one for her so he ended up signing an expensive two year plan to get the phone at $0 and pay the instalment of few hundred dollars a month. And the army boy only has a few hundred dollars a month from their "job" in the army." - "Talent Scout" from Thai Club
"I enjoy going to Thai club to meet the girls there. They are so nice to me and not demanding like Singapore girls. They don't ask for LV or ask me to get a better job for our future or ask me to marry her" - One of the many silly men.
That is because she doesn't want to marry you and she don't want LV too, she just want your money.
"I like it when my friend tell me which girl is hot and I get to tell them I've bang her before." - Yet another silly men.
Guess what, you are the lucky 75% of the club.
"It's easier to hit on a girl here. They are not like Singaporean girls. Golden Cheesepie so hard to ask them out." Depressed and low self esteem local man.
That is because he didn't try.
"I'm here just to make friends" - Delusional army boy
Ya, give me all your money I can be your friend too.
"It's not sex I'm looking for." - Man with Pants on Fire
That's true as well, cause it's not that easy to get it these days.
Not A Hater But...
I've seen so many of my friends falling into this routine over and over again. Bringing their "girl friend" to create the whole awkward scene where no one else knows what to say to her or him.
Don't get me wrong. I am not looking down on them or judging anyone who visits Thai pub. I have friends who are there to have fun with their own friends too. Friend who just visit to have drinks or watch the performance. In fact to be honest, it can be pretty entertaining at times.
Moreover, who am I? I am in no position to judge how people choose their own happiness.
I do waste money on entertainment too, I love my beer, my whisky and even buying toys at a age of 30.. So what am I saying here? What is my point of this article?
THIS
Singapore Girls
We still remember Little Miss "No $6,000 No Talk"? I Can't deny that there are girls who are practical like this out there but truth be told, she doesn't make up the majority of the population. There are many girls out there who are very nice and I guess guys are mostly intimidated.
This is my only problem with the whole Thai Club thing. It is almost like playing game with gameshark. Getting things the "easier" way. Skipping the whole dating and getting straight to the point with the help of money. It gives good man the illusion that they are living their life as a player or as a VIP and putting good man into the gutter. The truth is they can do better and be happier somewhere.
So instead of spending the thousands of dollars on an "easy target" and going no where, why not pick your game up, spend the money, time and effort on finding a real partner, girl friend or wife if that is your rant?
Mr.Smith, don't hate the player, hate the game.
26 comments:
really enjoyed reading this post. Singapore girls got so jialat meh? not all lah.... Guys you should really go out and get to know these Singapore girls. Maybe they just have a wicked sense of humour. probably becos they are shy?!? or just to get your attention?
Anyway thanks Smith for speaking up for Singapore girls. Time for us to reflect also
Well say..my friend got dump.by her bf bec he fell.for thai girl in the pub..sadness
Well, Dating with Thai Girl at first is expensive, but once she really treat you as REAL boyfriend, then you will know it not about money. For sure if you are already become her real boyfriend you will not hear word/sentence such as phone spoil need new phone or need LV such etc.
How many successful Singapore Guy Married Thai Girl and live happily ever after, well i seen hundred of them already.
... For Singapore Girl, not all are bad.
well my point in the END it is just MAN EGO. it what game u set to play and what game you set to end. Most important is 1st Date just be yourself and honest.
As I too agree, why would anyone be so dumb to give garlands?? I can see that it works with the ego trip thing.
Well I did give a garland or 2 before .. to the main and backup .. guitarists :)
Bcoz I just love the way they played and I pray that they will become my "friends" so that they will volunteer to give me some free lessons .. one day .. LOL .. not.
Singaporean girls are not hard to "tackle" to be your "stead". You just have to be able to withstand their constant nagging and nitpicking all life long. Do not worry, they WILL find something to nitpick.
Getting girlfriend is never hard, getting that great friend, girlfriend and future wonderful wife and mother .. that is the hard part.
BUT the problems don't always lie with the gals, the guys need to wake up their own ideas first.
What if those 'successful SG guy' are not well to do and will those girls fall for them in the first place?
Yes totally agree with you. I was having this discussion w one of my friends that why guys can spend so much $$ on a siam bu but will not spend a cent to buy a drink for a local girl at a pub or club.
Our conclusion is cos "investing" in a siam bu will guarantee "returns". Wherelese local girls jus wanna be friends and insincere men will blame and claim that local girls are demanding etc etc.
Honestly, girls can sense your sincerity. Moreover, isn't it good if she ask u to get a proper job etc. At least she is concern abt your future. No doubt i have to admit there are some girls who are materialistic, but i know many nice girls who aren't! Its jus a matter of whether u are "hardworking" enouh to win their hearts.
My ex boyfriend was like the stupid men u mentioned! Always lied to me about him staying in camp but actually hooking up with the girls in the Thai clubs... in the end we broke up Cos I buay tahan he always lying to me and cheating on me, and now I'm happily married (to another guy of course).
As a biz student, all I can say is stupid men, smart Thai girls, even smarter Thai club bosses! Not surprised if they are actually singaporeans.
P.s. ur post made me laugh! Keep up with the good job!
Disagree somewhat on the Thai girls bit. Thai girls are in the job for money but have needs to. You just need to rip off that mask.
I actually enjoy going for Thai girls or rather girls that I know who only want money. Not because they are easy but because it is very challenging to rip their masks off.
Once you've gotten a girl who only wants money emotionally committed, they fall fast and they fall hard. Once they commit emotionally you will have her at your finger tips and from here on your word is king.
There were a handful of Thai girls, after getting committed are the ones who pay for me. Needless to say I made back all my initial capital and more. Of course, I've already stopped such behavior after a guilt trip but the truth is, Thai girls are humans and they have emotions too, money or not.
You just need time to slowly peel off that exterior.
Besides that point of them being humans, in a happy relationship with a very independent and strong Singaporean woman(A real rare gem in Singapore). Oh boy, was it a long journey.
Tbh not all singaporean ladies are good neither are them all bad. Some of us want commitment while others just wants to have fun. The point is, if you're looking for a date, don't start at a club?? You're breaking your own heart/ wallet. Look around you, schools or workplace, pay more attention and you won't be needing exclusive dance moves or expensive drinks.
I can't stand how people like to belittle other fellow Singaporeans (regardless of gender). The common phrase "Singapore guys cannot make it!" or "Singapore girls are all gold diggers!".
If for a few bad eggs you cast out the whole basket, who loses out? You do.
Stereotypes are for the close minded and the foolish. Go out there and experience the world in all its ups and downs instead of listening to your friends who sit on their hands all day and watch time past by them
Because the successful ones are those that got shot gunned.
Furthermore successful? Lets wait till either one of them step into their grave before judging if they lived happily ever after.
Until the end, we can only know.
I couldn't agree more with your views on Thai discos. I've always belittled men who frequent these places. However, there are also local girls who work in such nightspots and they are as equally money-greedy as those foreigners (for instance those "event model" girls)
Unfortunately, no matter what one preaches, there will always be foolish men uselessly splurging on girls who barely deserve it.
what if i only go for cheap beer towers hahahahaha
Ok what some girls give 50 dollar flower bang them for a month. Sorry author maybe u ni skill or u look like william hung. TEEHEE
The food was clearly fantastic, we were there for over three hours, and some of the guests were before that too. I had a salad with added shrimp and absolutely loved it!
I had a friend who told me everything you told me. The thing is you don't understand. I too had seen my friends fall into these love traps. But I had also friends who enjoy these games. If there is a nationality that I have to choose where my gf is from, I would choose Thailand.
Tell me which SG girls would have a bf who go dutch? Are you 30? Have you buy a gift for your SG gf? Tried getting perlini silver at this age? Haha. The investment are the same, unless you dated your gf since Secondary/Poly/JC. Ask any local girls and they expect bf to buy gift of some value, maybe LV or a branded watch.
Thai girls cheated on our friends, I agree on this. We are lucky most SG girls don't dare to have 10 bf at once. But if a guy were to be cheated like 9 other guys, he don't deserve my pity. As I had told my friends, you got eyes to see, too bad you did not see clearly.
To sum it all up, I find that you have prejudice against Thai girls. You might have been hurt by them before but we do not stereotype people.
My friend married a Thai who happened to be the daughter of a property developer. And she worked here for a month for fun.
So, too bad for all those who had being cheated before. Just be careful. It can happen to you with any girl from any country.
Hi Anonymous 5 Feb 2.20pm.
Thanks for reading this article and thanks for the comment.
Of course there are always outliers as well as some special cases. I mean we can call me having prejudice as much as I can call you having prejudice against local ladies as well.
I guess we are only human to stereotype, group people as well as simply seeing what we choose to see.
My intention of this article is as simple as I've explained. it is not to pin point that Thai girls are bad but I'm saying Singaporean girls can be as good as how man wish woman to be.
As much as u have seen successful stories about good thai girl love story I've seen many nice local ladies who ain't gold digger too. LV or branded watches are good to have but I've seen many who support the family side by side with their husband and ask no more than family time to stay happily married.
As for your interest on whether I've been hurt by them before, the answer is no as I do not even invest any time and money on them to begin with.
I guess everyone have different taste when it comes to choosing our own poison. As long as we are happy. But I just hope guys who goes to Thai girls are like you who are really into them and not put the blame in a way that they go to thai girls because they can't get a local girl because local girls are way too materialistic.
:D
Totally agree with you on your post. The point is never about Thai girls being bad or local girls being better...We have to look back at the initial reason for them coming over, which is to work and to earn money. Generally for Thai girls, they value their family much much more than themselves due to the bias culture of men being more important than women which is sad to say that this mentality still exists in their culture. For them to gain respect or the feeling of needed in their family, they will mostly opt to be the providers in their families...
It is not their fault that they are having more than 10 so called honeys or teeruks and the same time. It is the nature of their work in making men feels like they are the special ones and thus spend willingly on them on and off work. Even if you manage to meet one who is treating u sincerely and truly in having a serious relationship with you, it will always come to a point in time that they will need you to support their families as well. Unless you are being together with her for the sex (as mentioned by few in their previous comment), you will probably be scratching your head being the provider for both her family and your own family. For those who claimed that they are in a serious relationship with Thai girl but still allowing their gf to work in a Thai disco, lets face it guys, you are not that serious and yes we know, is for the lust rather than the love. Being a normal person, nobody would probably be OK with their gf working in a place where guys can roam their hands freely on their gf's body, not to mention late night supper with their customers.
I'm not concluding that all relationship with Thai girls will fail eventually. I have friends who are happily married and having their own children as well. The key point is for her to stop work at once when both are serious about their relationship and guys, be prepared to take care of their families if your gf is not working anymore or at least until they find a decent job which is kinda hard.
True enough there are some that are rich just like one the bro mentioned earlier in his comment. I've met with one or two Thai girls whom are having steady relationship with their local Thai bf and trust me, their Thai bf are loaded to the extent that they can hire a driver for them to go around in their home country. But, that is just very, very few in a large basket, what are the odds that you will be able to meet with one and it will not be easy for you to confirm it as well.
Some of the bros mentioned that they spend very little on Thai girls and manage to make out with them after several tries. Well, sad to say but they are like the 8 out of 10 guys who managed to do this. Again, their egos are playing the game here. They would feel proud mentioning to their friends that they manage to make out with the particular girl with just minimum money spent. Well, Thai girls are not stupid as you think they are. If they are so easily falling in love with you, they probably will feel the same with any guys who supported them too. Yes, some are footing the bills for you but on food or movies or some drinks, which is far lesser compare to the time and money you have spent on them. Imagine one Thai girl doing the same to 5 customers, she will make back her initial capital faster than you can think even with only 2 customers falling into her trap. I've seen some friends being in tens of thousands of debts for supporting their gf while the girls can easily buy a brand new Honda Civic in their home town, with cash.
Again, I need to stress out that not all Thai girls are bad and not all local girls are good. There are good and bad in every race and ethnic, the point is you meeting them in a correct timing where you are ready...financially or emotionally... To conclude, if you wanted to find real love, you won't get it in a club as there is a Chinese saying 夜场无真愛...
Comeon where did u actually put ur brain,even a moron knows it.
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One word of simple advice, never find love at wrong place. You might be seeing a right person but meeting at wrong place will change the perception towards the relationship dramatically.
Willing buyer, willing seller. It is all about business. The Thai PR duty is to entertain and take care of her customer by any way and any method, including using manipulative emotional trap to gain a man's attention. For sake of material and money.
One more thing, the Thai ladies working in such industry is definitely not looking for soulmate as well because they truly understand the logic and metaphora of customer is always a customer.
Decent Thai girl does not even chose to expose their flesh. It is in their DNA that one's dignity cannot be compromised for sake of material or money.
Live in Thailand before? If you are luck enough, like some said here a chap is married with a developer's daughter. But 100% you will not meet a developer's daughter, tycoon's daughter at any Thai pub, disco or ktv. Not a single Thai ladies you meet in Singapore is from such background. Those PRs are 9 out of 10 ladies of being a widowed single mother, having family financial burden, must take care children behalf their bf/husband. There are also 8 out of 10 plying into this trade for easy money (as promised by their agent that they could earn 5 to 10k SGD). EASY COME, EASY GO. If you have one of the Thai PR's social media profile, you can obviously see that she would post photo of splurging cash like hell note or buying luxurious item to treat themselves. See to believe.
You have what it takes to marry a Thai PR girl/woman you meet at wrong place? Ask yourself, you silly egoistic Sillypore man. Make sure you have
sufficient funds before you even think of going further. If you cannot provide them financially, you better dont even try to dating or starting a relationship.
NO free meal in this universe. You even have to spend hefty sums of money until an extent the Thai lady will exchange her body for money/material (transactional relationship). This is not love. More like hooking up a hooker (pun intended).
You marry a Thai PR, you have to marry her whole family too. Want a proper Thai girl, you wont meet them at wrong place. Brush up your basic Thai vocalbuary firs and learn about their culture.
Why do they spend so much $$? Because 1) the SG girl will eventually take up as much money throughout your relationship and 2) on top of that the whole fuckin "relationship" is only ever about her and her and her. Don't kid yourself. Look around and see who dominate/nags their husbands and boyfriends. The men spend their hard earned $$$ because they just want a BREAK from the snide comments and put downs,that's all. You don't have to insinuate inadequacy just because you like being nagged.
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